1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks
 

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I'm assuming these are boxer primed?

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NO. I called them -- they are berdan primed. However, 1,120 rounds on stripper clips for $256.40/case is not a bad deal.

What stinks is all of the verification necessary. I was going to pick up a case, but my drivers license doesn't have my delivery address on it, so I would have to fax them a utility bill... which I don't have at this time.

Re: 1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks
 

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A boxer primer ignites the powder through a single hole in the bottom of the case. A berdan primer ignites the powder through 2 holes (think binary star) at the bottom of the case. YOU CAN NOT RELOAD BERDAN PRIMED CASES. There is no decapper that can push out the spent primer.

The reason military ammo is berdan primed (besides being a typical European thing) is that it supposedly causes a quicker ignition of the powder with less percussive bullet displacement prior to ignition.

Re: 1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks
 

man that would be bad-ass if those were boxer primed. I'm buy Fiocci to get the brass for reloads.

Good find none the less..

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Maybe... but would they do that if they knew their barrels were not chrome lined? This stuff is on stripper clips for SKSs.

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No kidding. I'd mortgage my firstborn to stock up. 7.62x39 reloadable brass is way too expensive.

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As I suspected this is the comblock stuff not 7.62 x 51 NATO.

Rats.

This would have been a great deal if it was the 7.62 x 51 NATO.








http://www.samcoglobal.com/images/762.jpg http://www.samcoglobal.com/images/7622.jpgWITHOUT STRIPPER CLIPS

Manufactured in Yugoslavia, 80's, FMJ, 123 Gr.
C/BE, Brass cases, Lead core bullet, Packed
15 rds per box. 1260 rds per sealed zinc lined
wooden case. Wt. 63 lbs WITH STRIPPER CLIPS (10 rounds per clip)

Manufactured in Yugoslavia, 70's, FMJ, 123 Gr
C/BE, Brass cases, Lead core bullet, Packed
10 rds on stripper clip 40 rds per box 1120 rds
per sealed zinc lined wooden case. Wt. 62 lbs 420 Rds.

480 Rds. on stripper clips.

1260 Rds. Case


Order 5 or more cases for $250.74 per case!



1120 Rds. Case on stripper clips.


Order 5 or more cases for $245.28 per case!

Re: 1260 rounds of brass cased 7.62 for 263 bucks
 

In the Category of "You learn something everyday":


RCBS Berdan Decapping tools:

HERE

You must also use Berdan primers, as they are a different size than Boxer primers.

It is certainly more of a PITA, the primers cost more and are harder to find, but it can be done.

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Thanks! I'll bet it is a trick to get it lined up each time.

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No doubt....I've never done Berdan, but I knew it could be done.

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Thanks for the info on reloading berdan. Didn't know that was possible as I am fairly new to reloading. It is a rewarding skill to have.

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I've not seen this Yugo ammo on the market since 2002, when AIM Surplus sold a bunch. Yes, it's corrosively primed. Not "mildly corrosive" or "just a wee li'l bit corrosive". It is or it isn't - sort of like being pregnant.

Coming with stripper clips, this stuff is a good buy.

From what I've read on other forums, quoting Martin Fackler (MD, heavily involved in ballistics & wounding properties of various projectiles), the Yugo 7.62x39 is pretty nasty stuff. Google "Fackler Yugoslavian 7.62x39 M67" for more info. It's lead core, and tends to yaw/tumble earlier inside your target (9cm inside, vs 26cm for original Soviet style AK bullet). Ouch!

The packaging for this ammo is also pretty neat. Inside the wood crate is a sheet metal liner, with a piece of wire sticking out (& a wooden handle at the end of the wire). Pull the wood handle, and the wire slices through the sheet metal liner. Much easier opening than a spam can.

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Thanks TA! I'm wishing I had couple hondo to spend on ammo. I'm trying to stock up on preps first. gots a couple hondo of 7.62 for ak now but need to get more! :hissyfit_m:

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mildly corrosive is like being mildly pregnant.:biggrin:
And that Yugo stuff is corrosive "mild or wild"

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Well dam!!!


You just saved me the massive headache of having to give up my personal information and jump through hoops for a place I dont know!!

YOU ROCK!!!!!!!
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I've talked to a guy who has been reloading Berdans pistol ammo with boxers. I didn't pay too much attention to it but he was drilling a hole for the boxer charge to go through and I thought he said the primer fit right into the hole for the berdan primer since it was the same size. Anybody know??

I'll try to get ahold of him to get the story straight

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Hey, TA! I don't know if you found another source to replace that Fiocchi 7.62 x 39 that CheaperThanDirt canceled on you, but I found this if you're interested. Slightly better per-box price if you buy 500 or 1000, but the 100 rd deal puts it at $7.99 a box.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...mmo-click-here

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I've mostly been lurking here since I've joined this site. I recently bought a pls-fpk sniper rifle that shoots 7.62x54r and have been prowling the net looking for ways to reload the ammo.

below is a link for a way to decap the brass with water.

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It is.....700 rounds of romanian fmj berdan steel for 139.87 until end of month....century arms. 800-999-4899 ext 6. New stuff. Ask for Dave...he's one of us. buckets, guns, and silver!

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Here is a way to reload berdan primers using water to push them out

Not the easiest way to reload but in a pinch it would work.

http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting...ding/index.asp

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Good luck...wear your scuba outfit. Hope you've got a relative in russia to get the berdan primers.

There is another make shift way that I know folks have tried and works...not sure I'd do it but I've talked to a guy who does it a lot.

Run a long bit down through the case and drill a hole. (not all the way through the primer) Punch out the primer....reload with boxers. (make 'em fit) Shoot in bolt guns with an armored vest and face shield....he says he's never had a spud...he doesn't load them hot.

save your cases....if the shtf you may wish you could try it to fight the commie bastards when you run out of boxer brass.

Good luck...see ya in heaven. you're on your own Bro if you feel like experimenting with your life.

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ITS GONE!!!!!!

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this deal has been around for a while-- they charge a LOT for shipping.

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I've come across another way to make a tool for decapping berdan primed brass that should eliminate the mess by using o rings. It's been quite a few years since I've done any reloading but I don't know why it shouldn't be ok. I always loaded between the minimum and maximun and have had no problems. The first few times I fired reloads I was a little nervous but it's what I shoot all the time now and never worry about it. I reloaded quite a bit of ammo years ago and haven't needed to reload for many years.

http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/hydraulic.html


Hydraulic Decapping (uncapping)
of Spent Centrefire Cartridges

This page shows the manufacture of a 'home made' hydraulic decapper that can be made at home by those with access to a lathe and welding equipment. Or it can be used as a project by a group of shooting enthusiasts to construct a small number for sale or distribution within the group. It has been designed to be compatible, and fully interchangeable with, the hydraulic bottles that were made for use in the "Wamadet" decapping tool that was previously sold in the UK.

This device is most effective if it is built of massive proportions. The extreme mass of the base unit helps to increase the effect of the blow struck on the plunger by reducing the movement due to any compliance in the supporting structure. If the device can be operated whilst standing on a blacksmith's anvil this would make the job as simple and easy as it can be.

The original "Wamadet" unit came with two bottles one for small primer case types and the other for large primer types. http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/hyddecap.gif
I see no problem in redesigning bottles and plungers to suit individual calibres, but "O" rings are only available to suit three possible plunger sizes. I have collated some "O" ring sizes in a chart & dimensions with bottle and plunger dimensions for the two Wamadet sizes and an intermediate size that may be appropriate to some of you. Any alternatives that are developed by others may be Emailed for inclusion in the chart.

This picture of my long shafted hammer is a little out of scale, but it shows the general principle.

http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/sp.gif http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/armhammer.jpg

http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/hydxsect.gif The drawing at left shows the equipment in cross section.

The plunger is inserted until the lead in reduction rests on the top edge of the lower sealing ring or is inserted two or three millimetres into it.

The base Plate should be about 100 mm square or larger and 6, 10, 12 or more millimetres thick.

http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/rsa_tube.gif The tube... In the case of the original Wamadet unit was square, but steel scaffold tubing is ideal for the job, readily available and is inexpensive. It is also possible to make this portion from two pieces of rolled steel angle, 50 mm on a side, welded face to face to form a tube.

The central pillar has a socket 85 mm deep that accepts the bottles, this boring is a nominal 1" So 25.4 mm will give a clearance on the 25.3 mm cylinders. The foot of this pillar has a channel cut into it to allow the spent primers to be removed. It needs to be solidly welded in place to resist the hammer blows. The outer tube requires continuous welding so that it will not leak. It is of such length that the water level is higher than the cross holes in the hydraulic bottles, but not so tall as the bottles cannot easily be retrieved

All bottles are 124 mm tall and 25.3 mm diameter.
The cross sectional drawing above shows a de-capped cartridge case in position inside the bottle, but shows the plunger in the position it is placed before it is struck by the hammer. The hammer blow needs to be firm, but controlled so that it is not so violent that the underside of the plunger head crashes into the top of the cylinder.

The plunger stems are 41 mm long and are highly polished. The plunger head height on the Wamadet originals were 5/16" for the small plunger and 3/8" for the large sized version. In view of damage that has occurred to the heads of my plungers, I recommend that the heads be made 12 mm. Plunger head diameter in the originals was 18 mm and 20 mm respectively, with a heavy knurl to give good grip if you are using rubber gloves. A chamfer on the crown of the plunger will minimise the swelling of the knurled portion under the constant rain of hammer blows and the thicker head will allow for re-machining if the head becomes misshapen.

http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/plungers.jpg http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/bottles.gif http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/bottlel.gif http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/smbottle.jpg http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/plungers.gif Operation is as per the Wamadet Instruction Leaflet, however I recommend that you read all of these de-capping pages before you embark on the project.

large calibre 'big game' nitro rounds are not catered for by the bottles shown above. I see no reason why the whole equipment should not be scaled up to suit these larger calibres, but it may require a sleeved plunger to generate the pressure. (as right)

By using a small plunger the surface area over which the force from the hammer blow is spread, is lower, thus generating a higher pressure per unit area.

The slowing down, due to assembling and inserting the extra component, is unlikely to be a concern as such large calibres are unlikely to be handled in large quantities. http://website.lineone.net/~da.cushman/sleeved.gif
There is a hand held tool that works on a similar hydraulic principle. This requires a special sizing die that the case is driven into, but then the case and die are filled with oil and a sealed, screw threaded, piston is entered into a seal at the top of the die and rotated to provide the pressure that expels the primer. This method may suit large calibre rounds that are not dealt with in large quantities, but I think it would be very slow when compared to the bottle method.


"O" Rings and Alternative Bottles
for Hydraulic Decapping (uncapping) Tool

Including bottle and plunger dimensions I have only used the Wamadet large and small bottles myself, The intermediate type is given for completeness sake.

Dimensions are in mm.

DescriptionO ring
IDO ring
ODO ring
ThicknessO ring
Tol �Bottle
IDGroove
ODGroove
WidthPlunger
DiaWamadet Small Bottle10.7716.002.620.0811.115.982.6010.8Intermedi ate Bottle12.3717.62.620.0912.817.582.6012.4Wamadet Large Bottle13.9419.182.620.1014.419.092.6013.9
The original bottles had one "O" ring seal, but I recommend two, not for extra sealing, but for stabilisation of the plunger in the bore. The top 50 mm of the bore should also be mirror polished. This is so that if accidental contact is made by the highly polished plunger (due to a badly aligned hammer blow) the damage to the plunger surface will be minimised. The grooves that accept the "O" rings should be 4 mm and 22 mm from the top of the bottle to the top of each groove. Two 6.35 mm holes are drilled along a diameter centred on a point 14 down from the top so that it is midway between the two "O" rings, these holes allow hydraulic fluid into the bottle before the plunger is fitted.

Plunger to suitHead
ODHead
HeightStem
DiaStem
LengthLead
LengthWamadet Small Bottle181210.8412.5Intermediate Bottle191212.4413.0Wamadet Large Bottle201213.9413.5
If a Particular "O" ring does not provide a good enough seal, or is perhaps a little worn, then a strip of shim stock or thin plastic film can be installed behind the "O" ring in the outer periphery of the groove.

The exit holes that are bored to allow the primers to be expelled depend on the size of primer involved, in the case of the Wamadet large bottle this hole is 6.6 mm in diameter and in the small bottle it is 4.8 mm diameter.

DescriptionLengthDiaBottle
IDBase
ThicknessGroove
ODGroove
WidthPlunger
DiaWamadet Small Bottle12425.311.11015.982.6010.8Intermediate Bottle12425.312.81017.582.6012.4Wamadet Large Bottle12425.314.41019.092.6013.9
Material... The originals were EN1.